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February 15, 2019 at 10:27 am #26548
DOES ANYONE HAVE A SPOT PLAY METHOD USING THE SHEETS THANKS IN ADVANCE JEFF
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February 24, 2019 at 4:22 pm #28695
Yup….select the top trainers / owners angle…and top jocks that moved onto a better owner / trainer after they have rode other horses in that particular race…
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April 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm #39692
I really appreciate your response. The E-Ponies algorithm does account for this in the Conn number. It has minimum impact though as we tend to favor the horses history over the Jockey or Trainers. It will be interesting and I will want to analyse this correlation closer.
BTW, The Tip Tweets horses are ones that are suspected to be undervalued by the Morning Line. These horses show histories that do not match the position the ML expect. We will be focusing on finding more undervalued horses as we move forward with the live odds we will be importing in the future.
I’m learning all I can and am always looking for more advice. So thank you for sharing.
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April 12, 2019 at 9:05 am #40451
Are you employed by Liam ? I don’t know much about this site, except to say, it will only allow 4 horses to be scratched in a race. Other than that it seems very nice.
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April 12, 2019 at 1:38 pm #40524
Hello!
Yes, I’m Liam’s software man. I been lucky enough to work with the expert that Liam is for horse racing. It’s been an amazing experience that has turned into a friendship. I coded, configured, and maintain this site. We are not a rich company but we are working hard to provide a really serous contender in the information market for horse racing. Our goal is to provide a complete environment to help our customers gain the edge in this amazing hobby.
The limit on the 4 horse scratches is intentionally set and in no way a bug. We want to make sure that you all can see what our algorithms will do when we exclude horses.
I’m currently expanding the site to include a bunch of new features and are in the final testing. We will be continuously releasing more improvements as we move forward and am looking to make the site the first place you goto when at the track. Let us know if you have any ideas to make this happen.
I provide high quality development that does not suffer from the issues of the old systems that were in place. We are integrating the entire site and making it grow. I got a long todo list, and this increased focus on quality takes a bit longer to release features but provides the security, speed, and robustness you all demand. We work in a mobile first attitude and are always working to improve the site for all our users regardless of interface.
If you like this, and want offline access. Please go in the browser settings and install our Icon to the desktop. This will give you offline access to any track you visit while online. Great for at the track when internet might not be available.
Thanks for the kind words about the site. We are working hard to make it perfect.
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April 12, 2019 at 2:24 pm #40544
Thanks for your response. While, I’ve been a fan of E ponies since it was named Digital Chalk line and give nothing but high praise to Liam… He has done what I have asked and know lots of players deeply appreciate it.. I asked for an odds line—DONE!
I asked for a scratch feature—DONE!
But honestly can see no point in the 4 horse limit !!!!
I’m beyond an old timer….no smart phone, etc.
In all honesty, this website for horse racing, has no equal to my knowledge as of today.
Thanks again.
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April 13, 2019 at 11:13 am #40927
Thank you for the kind words. The decision was made to protect the intellectual property of the site. I had personally suggested putting it at 2. Thank Liam for setting it at 4.
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April 12, 2019 at 9:31 pm #40763
I would like to be able to do multiple scratches rather than one scratch at a time for a given race. Is this possible? Am I missing something? Also, it would be nice if the scratches remained saved after logging out.
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April 13, 2019 at 11:01 am #40925
You can not do multiple scratches without pressing the horses name and then, after the reload, pressing another. The sort feature is the start of another set of features coming in the future. I do expect the save button will include scratches in the future. I also hope to be adding a way to share these saved with the forum users. We will probably obscure the sharing order of the paid tracks to non-paying members so that people do not use it to provide the EP order to non-subscribers.
We could rewrite it so that only the race that scratches gets reloaded. But to save time and move onto more, we did it as is to save time. In the future we can improve this if the demand is real. I wanted the swipe right and swipe left of the old E-Ponies app to work as well, but right now we just use the links.
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July 27, 2019 at 7:06 am #69461
i need saratoga saturday analysis can you send it for free or can i get it for free
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December 23, 2021 at 3:20 pm #210962
I am only testing this out as a new spot play. I go through the E-Ponies tracks and look for those races where the Morning Line (ML) favorite is located in the 3rd position or more. I find that in this scenario that the favorite probably won’t win. NOTE: Favorites only win on average 35% of the time. This usually means that one of the other horses will come in at inflated/overlay odds.
AGAIN, let me stress that I am only testing this theory out! Yesterday (12/22/21) at PRX race 10 the #2
won and paid $32.20 and an exacta $199.20
12/23/21 Races that meet this condition
GP 2-6-10
TAM 5
TP 7-8
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December 23, 2021 at 10:04 pm #211011
GP 2-6-10 race 2 Fav showed #4 won $9.00 x $16.10 6.5f dirt F&M
race 6 Fav won $3.60 x $8.40 6.0f dirt F
race 10 Fav 5th #8 won $12.20 x $22.70 8.5f dirt F
TAM 5 race 5 Fav showed #5 won $48.20 x 143.80 8f turf F
TP 7-8 race 7 Fav won $7.80 x $14.10 8f turf
race 8 Fav won $3.60 x 8.60 6f dirt
So normally, I find more longshots in races of 6.5, 7.0, 7.5 and 8 furlongs. Even more when run on TURF and limited to Filly and Mares. I also look at the fractions from 4 furlongs to 6 furlongs and like to see the horse improve in lengths on the front end and/or back end.
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December 23, 2021 at 10:54 pm #211012
CORRECTION Values for TP 7-8 were taken from TAM
TP 7-8 race 7 Fav 4th #9 won $19 x 84.90 8f dirt F/M
race 8 Fav showed #4 won $44.80 x $151.00 8f dirt F/M
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December 24, 2021 at 2:46 pm #211017
12/24/21
GP
race 2 8f dirt F Fav 5 #2 won $17.40 x 38.10
race 4 8f dirt Fav won $7.20
race 5 8.5 dirt Fav won $8.40
race 7 6 dirt
TAM
race 5 8f turf Fav 5 #4 won $20.80 x $55.30
race 8 8f dirt
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December 24, 2021 at 9:26 pm #211035
12/24/21
GP
race 2 8f dirt F Fav 5th #2 won $17.40 x 38.10
race 4 8f dirt Fav won $7.20
race 5 8.5 dirt Fav won $8.40
race 7 6 dirt Fav won $3.40
TAM
race 5 8f turf Fav 5th #4 won $20.80 x $55.30
race 8 8f dirt Fav placed #7 won $16.40 x 24.40
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March 24, 2022 at 4:31 pm #217151
So this race was Betmix’s free race of the day GP 9 03/24/22. When I looked at the E-Ponies representation of the race I was surprised to see that most of the top picks in the categories were for longshots with the exception of the favorite who was only listed because he had the best E-P representation for E-P Line. Here is the list as seen. I will respond back after the race has been run for evaluation purposes.
The following list is in the best to last positions in the E-Ponies Chart Ranking
#7 favorite E-P Line 6/5
#5 Class 12/1
#12 Form 8/1
#4 Speed 20/1
#11 Last 30/1
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March 25, 2022 at 9:58 pm #217275
Results:
#7 $8.40 $4.00 $3.20 #2 $2.60 $2.40 #6 $ 5.00
<p align=”LEFT”>#6 went off at 16/1</p>
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<p align=”LEFT”>So maybe when top pick in all categories are 8/1 or greater the BEST BET is the FAVORATE to take it all! Show price wasn’t bad either! :good:</p> -
January 25, 2023 at 10:52 pm #239088
I have looked at E-Ponies over the years looking for a system that could be gleaned from the data.
so today I am coming to a conclusion as to a SPOT PLAY method using E-Ponies. Play a horse that has 3 or more first/top rankings in a category and do a SHOW bet. A lot of time this will be the top E-Ponies pick hence you might only get a nickle return per dollar bet ($2.10). So this is how it played out today 01/25/23:
Tampa Bay race5 horse #3 (not top E-Ponies pick) showed paid $3.60
PENN race2 horse #3 (E-Ponies top pick) won show paid $2.10
race 7 horse #6 (E-Ponies top pick) showed paid $2.60
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January 26, 2023 at 1:48 pm #239098
012623 e-ponies tk
AQU
Race #1 horse #2 top pick out
Race #2 horse #4 top pick out only win-place paid
Race #6 horse #6 3<sup>rd</sup> pick
Race #8 horse #6 top pick
GP
Race #8 horse #7 top pick
<u>Mahoning Valley</u>
Race #6 horse #3 top pick
Race #8 horse #6 top pick
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January 26, 2023 at 8:54 pm #239159
AQU
Race #1 horse #2 top pick out
Race #2 horse #4 top pick out only win-place paid #4 came in 3-rd in a 4 horse race
Race #6 horse #6 3-rd pick win $4.80 win only paid no place or show
Race #8 horse #6 top pick win $3.60 3.50 2.70
GP
Race #8 horse #7 top pick out
<u>Mahoning Valley sloppy</u>
Race #6 horse #3 top pick out
Race #8 horse #6 top pick finished 4
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January 27, 2023 at 4:57 pm #239199
012723 e-ponies tk
AQU none
CT
race 1 horse #8 top pick
race 6 horse #3 top pick
PENN none
TP none
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January 27, 2023 at 10:32 pm #239258
012723 e-ponies tk
AQU none
CT
race 1 horse #8 top pick came in 4-th
race 6 horse #3 top pick came in 4-th
PENN none
TP none
Top Picks are not doing so well so perhaps this is an indication of a distance change/never raced at distance and/or going up in class designation.
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